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Australia - Spreading the word of intolerance
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Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-04 07:37:04 UTC
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Looks like Australia is starting to feel the Islamic affect :-)!!! Under the
name of tolerance their is more intolerance and hatered.

Spreading the word of intolerance
October 4, 2004

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/03/1096741896292.html?oneclick=true

Labor's zealots have a scheme which will put religion in the dock, writes
Paul Sheehan.

The man who will become prime minister in 2006 - if the Federal Government
survives next weekend - is the slickest speaker in Australian politics. But
Peter Costello wore his heart on his sleeve on Saturday night, May 29, at
Scots' Church in Melbourne. His audience, 800 people filling the church, was
evangelical Christians.

"It was the First Fleet that brought the first chaplain and first knowledge
of the Christian faith to Australia. This was the critical and decisive
event that shaped our country. If the Arab traders that brought Islam to
Indonesia had brought Islam to Australia and settled, or spread their faith,
amongst the indigenous population, our country today would be vastly
different. Our laws, our institutions, our economy would all be vastly
different.

"But that did not happen. Our society was founded by British colonists. And
the single most decisive feature that determined the way it developed was
the Judeo-Christian-Western tradition. As a society, we are who we are,
because of that heritage. I am not sure this is well understood in Australia
today ...

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"Tolerance under the law is a great part of this tradition. Tolerance does
not mean that all views are the same. It does not mean that differing views
are equally right. What it means is that where there are differences, no
matter how strongly held, different people will respect the right of others
to hold them.

"I mention this because The Age newspaper has reported that my appearance
here tonight has been criticised by the Islamic Council of Victoria.
According to the president of that council [Yasser Soliman], by speaking
here tonight I could be giving legitimacy to parties that the Islamic
Council is suing under Victoria's Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

"I do not think that we should resolve differences about religious views in
our community with lawsuits between the different religions. Nor do I think
that the object of religious harmony will be promoted by organising
witnesses to go along to the meetings of other religions to collect evidence
for the purpose of later litigation.

"The proceedings which have been taken [under this new law], the time, the
cost, the extent of the proceedings, and the remedies that are available -
all illustrate, in my view, that this is a bad law."

Yes, it's a very bad law. Within months of being enacted, the excesses of
this legislation became self-evident. The first test case, Islamic Council
of Victoria v Catch The Fire Ministries, has cost more than $1 million in
legal fees and achieved nothing but enmity.

Yet, on August 4, in the Great Hall of Parliament in Canberra, Labor's
shadow attorney-general, Nicola Roxon, speaking before at a forum attended
by 1000 people, announced Labor would introduce a federal version of the
Victorian Racial and Religious Tolerance Act.

Suddenly, the Great Hall, which just minutes before had been filled with
applause for Roxon was filled with booing.

Labor appears incapable of absorbing a fundamental lesson from its federal
election disaster in 1996, after Paul Keating, Gareth Evens, Robert Tickner
and Nick Bolkus had poisoned the national debate by repeatedly spraying the
word "racist" across the political landscape. Look what happened to their
careers.

When the Bracks Government passed the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act, it
did so after the Victorian Equal Opportunity Commission had logged just five
complaints of religious vilification in the previous year. Yet the
commission's head, Diane Sisely, had warned of a dramatic increase in
attacks and insults against Muslims, despite the absence of evidence.

Exactly the same was going on in NSW, where the president of the
Anti-Discrimination Board, Chris Puplick, warned of endemic abuse of Muslims
even as his own annual report reported only 55 complaints lodged by all
groups in a year.

While Puplick was publicly eviscerated by the Premier, Bob Carr, Victoria
went in the opposite direction. The Equal Opportunity Commission hired May
Helou, of the Islamic Council of Victoria, to begin a large program advising
Muslims of their rights under the new anti-vilification law. It was Helou
who recruited three Muslims to attend a seminar, "The Nature Of Islam",
organised by Catch The Fire Ministries, a national, non-denominational
evangelical group.

After attending the seminar, the three observers prepared a 52-count
complaint for the Islamic Council of Victoria. The council then lodged the
complaint with the Equal Opportunity Commission against the ministry and two
of its pastors, thus completing the ideological circle between bureaucratic
agitation and litigation.

A mediation session was arranged. It lasted seven hours and 40 minutes. It
produced an ideological impasse. The Islamic Council commenced legal
proceedings. Hearings began in the Victorian Civil and Administrative
Tribunal in October last year. The hearings went for 40 days, spread over
nine months. Final submissions were made in June. The maximum penalties
under the act are a $30,000 fine and six months' jail. However, the prospect
of jailing people for their religious beliefs has proved so divisive that
Judge Michael Higgins felt obliged to announce he saw no grounds to jail
anyone.

"This has caused us a tremendous amount of time and stress," the head of
Catch The Fire Ministries, Pastor Danny Nalliah, told me. That's the point,
Danny. That's why the Equal Opportunity Commission went fishing for
business. That's why the Islamic Council went to court. They don't need to
win. They just need to send a message.

Nalliah was happy to summarise the views that led to this imbroglio: "I have
lived in Saudi Arabia and learned the real nature of Islam. It is to
dominate other religions and other cultures. The Koran speaks of world
domination. I have spoken to a lot of Muslim leaders who say it is easy to
exploit the Western system. The say the key is to be patient, to learn the
language, and to build up numbers. Then build up political power.

"Even Christians believe everyone should know about Christ and want people
to follow Christ. But the worry is with Islam, it goes one step further. If
peaceful methods fail, the Koran says you can use violence."

The price for these views, so far, has been $300,000 in legal costs. The
ministries' solicitors, acting pro bono, assess their costs at $400,000.
With the costs of the complainant, plus the publicly funded cost of the
hearings, total legal costs exceed $1 million.

Eighteen months after the Islamic Council of Victoria lodged its action, the
matter remains unresolved. And Labor wants a federal version of this law.
Sunny
2004-10-04 08:11:46 UTC
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"Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri" <***@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:cjqtvb$qlp$***@news-02.connect.com.au... Snip usual crap>

What part of are you too thick to understand ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
"But that did not happen. Our society was founded by British colonists. And
the single most decisive feature that determined the way it developed was
the Judeo-Christian-Western tradition. As a society, we are who we are,
because of that heritage".
I have said it before you clown, so read this slowly :-

If you want to live in Australia, as an Australian, good.
If not, then don't let the door hit your arse as you leave.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-04 08:39:06 UTC
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You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
Post by Sunny
What part of are you too thick to understand ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
"But that did not happen. Our society was founded by British colonists. And
the single most decisive feature that determined the way it developed was
the Judeo-Christian-Western tradition. As a society, we are who we are,
because of that heritage".
I have said it before you clown, so read this slowly :-
If you want to live in Australia, as an Australian, good.
If not, then don't let the door hit your arse as you leave.
Hunter1
2004-10-04 08:43:16 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig!
Why is he a racist pig??? He's saying that if you want to
live in Australia then you come here to be Australian,
irrespective of race/religion. Religion is your choice, but
people that come here need to live within our society and
culture, whilst bringing the good parts of their own which
we'll happily accept and make part of our own. Simple
really, hardly anything like the bigotted shit you spout.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
I don't say we want more Muslim pigs (or Hindu pigs or
Christian pigs or any pigs for that matter, we tend to breed
our own pigs in farms) in Australia. I say that any person
(as opposed to pigs that you seem to have some sort of
sexual fetish with) of any religion/race are quite welcome
to come here and be a part of our society, providing that is
what they intend to do.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-06 09:51:50 UTC
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What is an Australian?
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig!
Why is he a racist pig??? He's saying that if you want to
live in Australia then you come here to be Australian,
irrespective of race/religion. Religion is your choice, but
people that come here need to live within our society and
culture, whilst bringing the good parts of their own which
we'll happily accept and make part of our own. Simple
really, hardly anything like the bigotted shit you spout.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
I don't say we want more Muslim pigs (or Hindu pigs or
Christian pigs or any pigs for that matter, we tend to breed
our own pigs in farms) in Australia. I say that any person
(as opposed to pigs that you seem to have some sort of
sexual fetish with) of any religion/race are quite welcome
to come here and be a part of our society, providing that is
what they intend to do.
Hunter1
2004-10-08 16:26:33 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
What is an Australian?
A member of our society that lives side by side with the
rest of our society. What is an Indian?
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-26 08:42:58 UTC
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An Indian is a human being who looks to be just ... where as you are not
living side by side with Aboriginals you are knocking them off and taking
their land, that is the difference between an Indian and a British/European
reject like you.
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
What is an Australian?
A member of our society that lives side by side with the
rest of our society. What is an Indian?
koolfire_or
2004-10-26 15:08:27 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
An Indian is a human being who looks to be just ... where as you are not
living side by side with Aboriginals you are knocking them off and taking
their land, that is the difference between an Indian and a British/European
reject like you.
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
What is an Australian?
A member of our society that lives side by side with the
rest of our society. What is an Indian?
http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/AHR/archive/Issue-November-1997/paisley.html



Race and Remembrance:
Contesting Aboriginal Child Removal in the Inter-War Years
Fiona Paisley

© all rights reserved

In her influential book The Australian Aboriginal as a Human Being
published in 1930 activist, writer and mission educator Mary Bennett
denounced the removal of Aboriginal women and girls as 'akin to
slavery' and as contravening the League of Nations Covenant and
Slavery Convention, both signed in preceding years by the federal
government. 1 When her paper 'The Aboriginal Mother in Western
Australia' was read at the 1933 annual conference of the London-based
Dominion Women's British Commonwealth League, accusations of
Aboriginal slavery made London and then Australian newspaper
headlines. 2 Such outspoken criticisms were denounced by Prime
Minister Lyons in terms remarkably similar to present day discussions
of international criticisms of Aboriginal status and conditions in
Australia:


The raking up of atrocities that may have occurred in the early days
of settlement in Australia and the featuring of them as an indication
of the state of affairs existing today is not only unfair to the
Governments of to-day, but is extremely detrimental to the good name
of Australia. 3
This concern for national reputation in the eyes of the world points
to the preoccupation with identity which has marked Australian
culture. In their collection on memory and history, Kate Darian-Smith
and Paula Hamilton note that this nationalist preoccupation with
claiming a 'past' has predominated, both from European ways of seeing
and understanding and from acts of erasure in 'a deliberate
non-recognition and a deletion of the existing Aboriginal history'.
The combined effects of memory and forgetting continues to 'haunt
Australian society today'. 4

In recent years feminist historians have well established the gendered
nature of such nationalist accounts, they have been arguably less
ready to investigate the play of gender, sexuality and race in
constituting national pasts and presents. Along with Thom Blake,
Aboriginal historian Jackie Huggins finds that guilt and fear has
limited the writing of raced and gendered histories in Australia.
White feminist historians have yet to fully engage with anglo-women's
historical role in removal, including their sometimes abusive
treatment of Aboriginal women domestic servants. 5 Acknowledging this
silence/silencing, Australian feminist historian Ann Curthoys has
argued that only through recognition of the complicity of feminism in
Australia's colonial and imperial past can feminist history fully
engage with questions of race as well as gender and class 6

Taking the complicity of white women as members of the colonising
power as my starting point, I now want to consider evidence against
child removal provided by anglo-Australian women activists including
Mary Bennett to the 1934 Moseley Royal Commission into Aboriginal
status and conditions in Western Australia. My aim here is not to
construct a recuperative account of Australian feminists' proper
attention to race relations, nor to invent a new nationalist tradition
for feminism in Australia, 7 but rather to interrogate the gendered
nationalist and racialist contexts within and across which a feminist
politics against child removal was articulated. I argue that
challenges to child removal policies by anglo-Australian women
activists at this time raises critical questions about the complex
amalgam of welfare humanism, cultural and racial theory and population
eugenics central to White Australia's administration of Aboriginal
men, women and children and the particular relation of white women to
that project.

During the inter-war years members of various women's organisations
such as Bessie Rischbieth (Women's Service Guilds of Western Australia
and the Australian Federation of Women Voters), Ada Bromham (Women's
Service Guilds and the Woman Christian Temperance Union) and Mary
Montgomery Bennett campaigned in Australia and overseas for the reform
of Aboriginal policy and administration including the end of child
removal. In conducting a pro-Aboriginal rights campaign the
anglo-Australian, middle class members of these organisations came to
publicly question Australia's past and present treatment of Aboriginal
people, especially women and children, proposing a future 'national'
responsibility to include land, citizenship, increased welfare,
education and the protection of bodily, family and community rights.
(As we have seen, they promoted their national reform aims
successfully from London.) Thus women activists contested Australian
race relations, promoting what they considered to be a 'moral'
national response to the Aboriginal question. 8

In contrast racial policy in Australia during the 20s and 30s was
structured around concerns about miscegenation and its perceived
threat to racial viability: administrators argued for the biological
absorption of a growing mixed-descent population while preserving for
posterity declining numbers of full-descent Aborigines. The removal
and institutionalisation of mixed-descent children (predominantly
girls to be trained as domestic servants) was a key strategy employed
towards these policy aims. Thus Aboriginal women were subjected to the
trauma of child removal, undertaken by state authorities who assumed
parental guardianship of their 'illegitimate half-caste' children.
From 1911 the Western Australian Act, for example, excluded the rights
of Aboriginal mothers of 'half-caste' children in favour of the Chief
Protector, and was amended in 1936 to preclude a living parent or any
relative. State guardianship over removed children was extended from
16 to 21. The Chief Protector also held financial control over the
earnings of Aboriginal workers. 9

Such so-called protective legislation amounted to persecution by the
systematic separation and isolation of Aboriginal girls and young
women, and sought to eradicate 'half-castes' through the control of
Aboriginal women's reproductive lives. 10 Western Australian Chief
Protector A.O. Neville was a proponent of biological assimilationism,
arguing for the 'breeding out of colour'. Under Neville's authority
mixed-descent Aborigines were to be isolated from full-descent
Aborigines, and marriages were to be restricted to those of
'compatible' racial make-up through the protective
institutionalisation of Aboriginal women and children on government
institutions such as Moore River Settlement. 11 These policy aims came
under question during the 1934 Royal Commission appointed to
'Investigate, Report, and Advise upon Matters in Relation to the
Conditions and Treatment of Aborigines' led by Perth stipendiary
police magistrate, Henry Doyle Moseley. His brief included recent
press accusations of concerning the ill-treatment of Aboriginal
people. 12 What follows concerning the question of Aboriginal child
removal is taken from unpublished transcripts of evidence to the
inquiry.

In her testimony to the inquiry Mary Bennett asserted that
Aboriginality and maternal power were closely linked; the survival of
one depended upon the other. She singled out the mother-daughter bond
as particularly important to racial and cultural survival and the
successful entry or self-regulated assimilation of Aboriginal women
into non-Aboriginal society:

What Australia's aboriginal half-caste daughters need is their own
mothers who love them, and their own homes among their own people, and
teaching, until such time as they shall have attained legal and
economic and political freedom, and meet white people on terms of
equality. 13

The caring family with the mother-daughter dyad at its centre rather
than the 'patriarchal' parenting offered by an interventionist
administration) was, she argued, the greatest encouragement to all
forms of 'uplift': '[d]epartmentalism is no substitute for mother
love'. 14 Government policy merely exacerbated the destructive effects
of dispossession by the 'official smashing of family life' 15 -- the
removal of Aboriginal children from their homes, families and
communities and their wardship under the Chief Protector himself. In
Bennett's opinion the disastrous outcomes of this policy were
manifold. For those girls who had been removed, both employment and
unemployment placed them 'in the greatest peril'. 16 Government
policies of sending them into white homes as domestic servants left
them 'to earn their living in great loneliness in an alien community'
17 where 'unnecessary crimes and tragedies' 18 ensued. Her
conceptualisation of the 'Aboriginal or half-caste woman' protected by
her family and community was in stark contrast to the ever-single
available lubra of contemporary frontier discourse and of the racist
polices of absorption promoted by Neville.

The removal of Aboriginal children was a practice that Bennett had
long argued was 'violating the family sentiment on which their whole
culture is founded' and resulted in long-term psychological and
emotional damage. 19 Throughout these years, she maintained that far
from causing Aboriginal women little anguish (a common belief) child
removal psychologically and emotionally damaged both mother and child:


The mothers are utterly wrapped up in their children. Their human
relationships are the only things that they can have (sometimes) when
white need permits and even these the grinding tyranny and feudal
system of the Department seeks to take. 20
The ongoing removal of 'half-caste' children particularly affected
young Aboriginal women who lived in constant fear of discovery.

Bennett defended leaving 'half-caste' children in camps (which she
hoped would become village settlements) because their removal would
only lead to 'promiscuous relationships with white people, so that
they belong to no one and have no family ties'. 21 She recommended a
change in attitude to the treatment of 'half-caste' girls under the
control of the Department because a cycle of despair faced the many
Aboriginal and 'half-caste' women and their children either in flight
from authorities, or detained in the Department's infamous Moore River
Settlement. According to Bennett her Aboriginal informants described
the Government's Moore River Settlement as a 'prison farm'. She
provided detailed accounts of starvation, of summary beatings and
prison conditions, accusations also made in the testimony of
Aboriginal witnesses themselves. 22

Equally determined to defend the Aboriginal mother and child against
state intervention Ada Bromham testified that Aboriginal women she
knew were working but lost their earnings to pay for the support of
their children, even though '[u]nder the law the mother has no right
over the child.' Bromham pointed out that the Chief Protector's powers
of guardianship over all Aboriginal children overrode maternal rights:
'[i]t is becoming more or less the practice to take children away
rather than to try and obtain maintenance from fathers'. Noting that
the sexual availability of Aboriginal women was 'useful' to
maintaining the frontier sexual economy, she added: '[t]here is a
feeling that the aboriginal woman has been more or less useful and
that those administering the Act consider there is not much harm in
the system that has grown up.' 23

And in her evidence to the inquiry Bessie Rischbieth called for a
Commonwealth investigation into the 'present alleged practice of
taking children of a certain age to the Government mission stations
and thus depriving their parents of the custody of their children'.
She argued that if deemed 'neglected' (by which they were often
removed by authorities) Aboriginal children should be subject to
adoption as was the case with white children. However, she explained,
'In most instances I should prefer to see the children left with their
parents ... (T)he system should be improved in order that [Aboriginal
parents] might keep their children'. The state had a duty to support
motherhood, including Aboriginal mothers whose economic conditions
might otherwise make it impossible for them to adequately care for
their children. 24

In their evidence to the Royal Commission the majority of activist
women expressed no doubt as to the dreadful emotional pain suffered in
silence by fearful Aboriginal children and mothers and to their
reliance upon the (white, enfranchised English speaking, middle-class)
women's voice to give expression to their anguish. Because of
Aboriginal women's exclusion from enfranchised political identity,
women activists claimed for themselves a crucial role in shaping
Australia's future Aboriginal policy. 25 The Women's Service Guilds
journal The Dawn claimed in 1927, '[i]t must be remembered that the
[A]borigines are an inarticulate race, unable to voice their own
wrongs, hence the more reason that others must do it for them'. 26
Used to acting in the name of 'women', they understood their duty as
'women of Australia' to include demands for Aboriginal land rights,
citizenship, education, employment and family life.

Central to that political duty was a critique of white masculinity.
The prostitution of Aboriginal women and the denial of their offspring
revealed the white man as 'unnatural', callous and lacking in
compassion. Insisting on cross-class responsibility Bennett argued
that 'wealthy squatters, station-managers and others', the father of
'half-caste' children, showed no responsibility to any woman, 'black
or white'. They betrayed both individual Aboriginal women and white
womankind by their immoral often adulterous behaviour. They were
happier to retain their unclaimed children as 'serfs' or station
workers rather than fulfil their parental duty to teach them to become
'self-supporting, self-respecting Australian citizens', a potential
Bennett told the Moseley Royal Commission she had witnessed as the
teacher of 'half-caste' children: 'cleverer, finer, more affectionate,
responsive children cannot be found anywhere.' 27

Appalled by what they considered to be the devastating consequences of
the removal of Aboriginal children, women activists insisted that
mother and child must be kept together at all costs. Local,
community-based, self-sufficient reserves would offer safe areas for
women to bring up their children within Christian marriage. Yet even
those Aboriginal women who married on missions and entered the
workplace as 'happy, self-respecting young couples' under the
protection of their husbands and Christian law were faced with 'risks
and dangers ... we would not tolerate if our own daughters were the
ones who had to face them'. 28 In thus positioning the Aboriginal
woman as 'our' daughter, activist women such as Bennett confronted the
paternalism of the Board in a reversal of its own terms -- it was not
by imagining 'other' daughters but their own that white men might be
persuaded to stop their abuse.

Women activists envisaged a future national policy which would
endeavour to respect Aboriginal women as mothers and uphold their
rights to family life. They linked femininity with assimilation into
society by promoting citizenship for Aboriginal women in terms of
universal family and motherhood rights -- those of choice of husband,
the economic viability of the family unit and recognition of the
fundamental mother/child bond which they argued was central to
Aboriginal society as it was to their own. As independent and elite
women, many of whom regularly travelled overseas, they pursued
professional careers for themselves. In contrast they mobilised an
idealised version of working-class family life for Aboriginal people
in which Aboriginal women would along with Aboriginal men negotiate
economic and social assimilation for themselves and their children.

White activist women's concern for the familial and bodily rights of
Aboriginal women arose from their analysis of the exploitation and
abuse that they found characterised Aboriginal women's sexual
relationships with white men. Although both maternalistic and
patronising, these women activists' investment in 'uplifted'
Aboriginal family life was an attempt to counter the overwhelming
obstacles they saw denying the rights of Aboriginal people to family,
home and paid work. Arguably their pro-family campaign countered
contemporary representations of Aboriginal women as dissolute and
immoral, not married under white law and therefore sexually available
to all white men. Bennett found that frontier conditions across the
whole continent were dangerous for Aboriginal women because of the
activities of 'average ordinary' itinerant white men. 29

Such contestations of Aboriginal policy during the inter-war years
give testimony to the complex reverberations of memory and forgetting
that have shaped and continue to shape Australian history. The
'forgetting of the past in the present', according to Chris Healy,
effects a 'silencing' of 'encounters between black and white' 30 ,
encounters that I understand here as present within anglo-Australians'
defence of varying versions of assimilationism. Historical memory
plays a significant role in present-day politicians' legitimisation of
a return to an unapologetically assimilationist line. Insisting upon a
homogenous past which unites 'us all', the Minister for Aboriginal
Affairs, Senator Heron, has compared Aboriginal child removal to
leaving home for boarding school, a practice long considered good for
the (white, upper class, anglo-Australian) child and if damaging in
hindsight certainly not worthy of compensation. His message is that
while we may find such separations cruel, they were carried out by
well-meaning individuals often struggling in the face of a child's or
a mother's pain, but who toughened their hearts believing their
actions were in the best interests of the child. Through their
assertions of a united nation, Aboriginal people are to be denied a
distinct historical, cultural and social relationship to the colonial
nation-state.

As attested to in the recent national inquiry into the removal of
Aboriginal children from their families, however, child removal has
had a profoundly traumatic impact upon Aboriginal individuals and
groups and communities across generations. 31 This legacy continues to
confront non-Aboriginal Australians with their tenuous identity as
settler-colonials. For his part, Prime Minister John Howard admonishes
historians to focus upon working and middle class Australia's past of
'settlers' and migrants as the makers of real national history.
Dwelling upon the 'regrettable' past of racialist policies amounts to
'obsessive and consuming national guilt and shame'; it is a '"black
armband" view of our past' which seeks to obscure the 'balance sheet
of our history', 'heroic achievement' of its immigrant men and their
helpmeets, immigrant women. 32

Where then does this leave Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal contestations
of Aboriginal policy such as child removal. How might it be possible
to retrieve a sense of contestation over Aboriginal policy and
administration without conversely being accused of writing
recuperative, non-racist history? The campaigning of Aboriginal
organisations and humanitarian groups was considerable during the
1920s increasing into the 1930s. As Howard's repudiation indicates,
concern has largely focussed on the motivation of men (and to a lesser
extent women) officials, missionaries and others who formulated policy
and/or participated in its administration. Were they cruel racists or
merely misled by the racial theory of their day? I argue that the
inter-war contestations of policies of assimilation and authorities'
counter-defence disturbs any easy either/or reading of these
non-Aboriginal men and women. Writing their history does not seek to
assimilate their actions into a homogenous nationalist account of the
past; rather I would argue that it offers an opportunity to recognise
the complex and often contradictory political history of
non-Aboriginal Australian women's and men's responses to indigenous
rights in Australia.


Fiona Paisley lectures at the Centre for Women's Studies at the ANU.
She has published a number of articles on women's pro-indigenous
activism during the inter-war years and is currently writing a book on
the subject.

Notes and References

1. Mary Montgomery Bennett, The Australian Aboriginal as a Human
Being, Alston Rivers, London, 1930, for example, p. 122.
2. British Commonwealth League Conference Report, 1933, pp.44-45,
Fawcett Library; The Mail (London), 17 June 1933, p.2; Sydney Morning
Herald, 18 June 1933,p.1.
3. Sydney Morning Herald, 20 July 1933, quoted in Governing Savages by
Andrew Markus, Allen and Unwin, Sydney, pp.141-142.
4. Kate Darian-Smith and Paula Hamilton, Memory and History in
Twentieth Century Australia, Oxford University Press, Melbourne, 1994,
pp. 2-3.
5. Jackie Huggins and Thom Blake, 'Protection or Persecution? Gender
Relations in the Era of Racial Segregation', in Gender Relations in
Australia: Domination or Negotiation, eds Kay Saunders and Raymond
Evans, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1992, pp.42-58.
6. Ann Curthoys, 'Identity Crisis: Colonialism, Nation, and Gender in
Australian History', Gender and History, vol. 5, no. 2 (Summer 1993,
p.172; work which begins this project includes that by Marilyn Lake,
Catriona Elder and myself. See for example, Lake, 'Between Old World
"Barbarism" and Stone Age "Primitivism": The Double Difference of the
White Australian Feminist', in Australian Women: Contemporary Feminist
Thought, eds Norma Grieve and Ailsa Burns, Oxford University Press,
Melbourne, 1994, pp.80-91; Fiona Paisley, 'No Back Streets in the
Bush: 1920s and 1930s Pro-Aboriginal White Women's Activism and the
Trans-Australia Railway', Australian Feminist Studies, vol. 12, no. 25
(April 1997), pp. 119-138; Catriona Elder, "It was hard for us to
marry Aboriginal": Some Meanings of Singleness for Aboriginal Women in
Australia in the 1930s', Lilith, no. 8 (Summer 1993), pp.151-173.
7. Here I am drawing on Eric Hobsbawm's notion of 'invented
traditions' through which collective memory is authorised. See
Hobsbawm, 'Introduction: Invented Traditions' in The Invention of
Tradition, eds Eric Hobsbawm and Terence Ranger, Cambridge University
Press, Cambridge, 1983, pp.1-14.
8. See Paisley, Ideas Have Wings: White Women Challenge Aboriginal
Policy, 1920-1937, PhD, La Trobe University, 1995.
9. Western Australian Aborigines Act Amendment Act, 1911, no. 42,
Statutes of Western Australia, Government Printer, Perth; Western
Australian Act to Amend the Aborigines' Act, 1936, Statutes of Western
Australia, Government Printer, Perth, no. 43, section 7.
10. Patricia Jacobs, 'Science and Veiled Assumptions: Miscegenation in
W.A. 1930-1937', Australian Aboriginal Studies, no. 2 (1986),
pp.15-23.
11. Anna Haebich, For Their Own Good: Aborigines and Government in the
Southwest of Western Australia, 1900-1914, University of Western
Australia, Perth, 1988.
12. Western Australian Votes and Proceedings, vol. 1, 1935, pp.1-24.
As I show in my thesis, government officials had collected a large
file of such press clippings. Mary Bennett required her own file.
Paisley, 'Ideas Have Wings: White Women Challenge Aboriginal Policy,
1920-1937', PhD, La Trobe, 1995, pp. 274-280.
13. 'Report of the Royal Commission Appointed to Investigate, Report,
and Advise on Matters in Relation to the Condition and Treatment of
Aborigines, 1934, Transcripts of Evidence, State Archives of Western
Australia, AN 537, Acc. 2922 [hereafter MRTE], p. 341.
14. ibid, p.229.
15. ibid.
16. ibid, p.223.
17. ibid, p.269.
18. ibid, p.223.
19. The Dawn, (Journal of the Women's Service Guilds of Western
Australia) 20 January 1932, p.1.
20. Bennett to anthropologist Olive Pink, Olive Pink Papers,
Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies,
2368/A3, 223, A3b; B1F(a) (2), 4.
21. MRTE, p.301.
22. See their evidence, MRTE, pp.464-466, and Neville's accusations of
Bennett's undue influence upon them, pp.644-645.
23. MRTE, p.557.
24. MRTE, pp.539-540.
25. Antoinette has described the mobilisation of 'the Indian woman' in
presuffrage British feminism. See Burton, Burdens of History: British
Feminists, Indian Women, and Imperial Culture, 1865-1915 University of
California Press, London, 1994.
26. The Dawn, 19 July 1927, p.14. They also promoted themselves as
'world women'. See Paisley, 'Citizens of Their World: Australian
Feminism and Indigenous Rights in the International Context, 1920s and
1930s', Feminist Review, forthcoming 1997.
27. MRTE, p. 222.
28. ibid, p.223.
29. Daily News (Sydney), 13 December 1933, clipping, 'Allegations by
Mrs. M. M. Bennett', State Archives of Western Australia, DNW AN 1/7,
Acc. 993, 166/1932.
Whatever the basis of such relationships, policies of child removal
continued throughout these years; Aboriginal women and men who gave
evidence to the 1934 Royal Commission were intent upon ending the
incarceration of their relations at Moore River. Other Aboriginal
women who submitted written evidence to the inquiry demanded their
total exemption from Aboriginal legislation which they argued would
reduce abuses of power by white men protectors. A group describing
itself as the 'Half-caste women of Broome' sent a closely typed, three
page petition to Moseley outlining their own set of reform aims for
Aboriginal policy comparable to those advanced by white women
activists. They demanded work and family independence, autonomy in the
choice of marriage partner, education for their children, funding for
welfare in their community and security for their families from the
threat of removal. Although acknowledging the value of white women
advisors these petitioners ultimately called for the end to state
power over their lives. See document 2.9, 'Make us happy subjects of
this our country', Freedom Bound II: Documents on Women in Modern
Australia, editors Katie Holmes and Marilyn Lake, Allen and Unwin,
Sydney, 1995, pp.59-62.
30. Chris Healy, In the Ruins of Colonialism: History as Social
Memory, Cambridge University Press, Melbourne, 1997, pp.44-45.
31. Bringing Them Home: Report of the National Inquiry into the
Separation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Children from
their Families, Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission,
Sterling Press, 1997.
32. The Australian, 19 November 1996, p.14.

Links
Bringing them back home: a report on stolen Aboriginal children by the
Australian Legal Institute online

In Australian Humanities Review,see also

Carmel Bird's The Stolen Children – Their Stories
Henry Reynolds's After Mabo, What About Aboriginal Sovereignty? and
The Stolen Children – Their Stories: an afterword
John Frow's A Politics of Stolen Time
Sue Stanton's Time for Truth: Speaking the Unspeakable – Genocide and
Apartheid in the 'Lucky' Country
Re-membering and taking up an ethics of listening: a response to loss
and the maternal in "the stolen children" by Brigitta Olubas and Lisa
Greenwell
Those two little words by Beth Spencer
and Cracking Up by Hannah Fink

Please feel free to contribute to this discourse.
Hunter1
2004-10-27 12:37:25 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
An Indian is a human being who looks to be just ...
Nup, an Indian is just another human being. Some are shit,
some are good, just like anywhere else.

BTW, do you include Indian Muslims in your statement
above??? Or are you being a lying hypocrite yet again (and
just remember, I can happily pull up some of your previous
comments if you (yet again) try to lie your way out of this
one you racist nazi bigot).
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
where as you are not
living side by side with Aboriginals
Yes I am. And Indians too. Most races actually.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
you are knocking them off and taking
their land,
Yawnnn.... No I'm not, no more than you are doing so to
Dravidians.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
that is the difference between an Indian and a British/European
reject like you.
No, the only difference between you and me is that you are a
pathetic bigotted racist, I am not. Simple really.
Sunny
2004-10-04 22:28:52 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
Post by Sunny
If you want to live in Australia, as an Australian, good.
If not, then don't let the door hit your arse as you leave.
I said read the above statement slowly.
If you don't understand it, then get your keeper to explain it at your next
feed time.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-05 09:00:21 UTC
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Fuck off cunt ... you live in the wrong country to tell others to leave.
Fuck off back to Europe or some other shit place. Australia is not a white
man's country.
Post by Sunny
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
Post by Sunny
If you want to live in Australia, as an Australian, good.
If not, then don't let the door hit your arse as you leave.
I said read the above statement slowly.
If you don't understand it, then get your keeper to explain it at your next
feed time.
Sunny
2004-10-05 22:11:51 UTC
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Who rattled your cage this time ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Fuck off cunt ... you live in the wrong country to tell others to leave.
Fuck off back to Europe or some other shit place. Australia is not a white
man's country.
Post by Sunny
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said
he
Post by Sunny
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
Post by Sunny
If you want to live in Australia, as an Australian, good.
If not, then don't let the door hit your arse as you leave.
I said read the above statement slowly.
If you don't understand it, then get your keeper to explain it at your
next
Post by Sunny
feed time.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-06 09:54:14 UTC
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You need to take your mars bar and climb a tree and ape about on a tree!
Post by Sunny
Who rattled your cage this time ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Fuck off cunt ... you live in the wrong country to tell others to leave.
Fuck off back to Europe or some other shit place. Australia is not a white
Sunny
2004-10-06 23:07:04 UTC
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Does your mum know you use her PC ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You need to take your mars bar and climb a tree and ape about on a tree!
Post by Sunny
Who rattled your cage this time ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Fuck off cunt ... you live in the wrong country to tell others to leave.
Fuck off back to Europe or some other shit place. Australia is not a
white
Hunter1
2004-10-08 16:31:39 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Fuck off cunt ... you live in the wrong country to tell others to leave.
Fuck off back to Europe or some other shit place. Australia is not a white
man's country.
Lets try this again, if you think all people of European
descent should "fuck off" back to Europe then you obviously
think all people of Indian descent should "fuck off" back to
India. So why aren't you living there hypocrite??? Us more
sane people realise descent has nothing to do with anything,
and aren't bound by such infantile rules, but you seem to be
so why aren't you living by them??? Not too much of a coward
to stand by your own words (lies) are you???? After all,
unless you were a 2 faced hypocrite would you not be calling
for all people of Indian descent to leave the US, Australia,
Europe, Asia and everywhere else and return to India to keep
your racist reasoning consistant? (Lets see you evade the
question yet again, it's fun watching you squirm around this
one!) 8]
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-26 08:41:35 UTC
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Europe is a continent Asia is a continent and I live in my region. Europeans
can move freely around Europe so can Asian.
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Fuck off cunt ... you live in the wrong country to tell others to leave.
Fuck off back to Europe or some other shit place. Australia is not a white
man's country.
Lets try this again, if you think all people of European
descent should "fuck off" back to Europe then you obviously
think all people of Indian descent should "fuck off" back to
India. So why aren't you living there hypocrite??? Us more
sane people realise descent has nothing to do with anything,
and aren't bound by such infantile rules, but you seem to be
so why aren't you living by them??? Not too much of a coward
to stand by your own words (lies) are you???? After all,
unless you were a 2 faced hypocrite would you not be calling
for all people of Indian descent to leave the US, Australia,
Europe, Asia and everywhere else and return to India to keep
your racist reasoning consistant? (Lets see you evade the
question yet again, it's fun watching you squirm around this
one!) 8]
Hunter1
2004-10-27 12:42:39 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Europe is a continent Asia is a continent and I live in my region. Europeans
can move freely around Europe so can Asian.
Australia is a continent you moron so no you don't live in
your region any more than I do ancestrally (not that
"ancestrally" matters to anyone except racist nazi bigots
like you and your Indian Hindu KKK club with a membership of
4 online and a few thousand more cavemen in Gujarat).

At least I'm a citizen, are you? It seems I have more claim
to be here than you do according to your very own testimony
unless you're a citizen. Christ, I don't need to hand you a
shovel, you're quite successfully burying your own argument!
Any other lame smokescreens to throw up? (Didn't they teach
you basic geography?) But feel free to add more weight to my
point, it saves me the effort! The continent argument,
wouldn't have thought of that one myself. 8]
badmood
2004-10-05 02:04:12 UTC
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First move out of the block is to call him a racist. You may be too
sensitive to live in a western country. Consider moving to an all
muslim society.

Of course, if you have the experience then you know that the saudi's
are the most racist people on earth. They would look upon you as a
mongrel and treat you as a slave. You would be bringing them tea and
emptying their ashtrays.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
Post by Sunny
What part of are you too thick to understand ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
"But that did not happen. Our society was founded by British colonists. And
the single most decisive feature that determined the way it developed
was
Post by Sunny
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
the Judeo-Christian-Western tradition. As a society, we are who we are,
because of that heritage".
I have said it before you clown, so read this slowly :-
If you want to live in Australia, as an Australian, good.
If not, then don't let the door hit your arse as you leave.
i***@yahoo.com
2004-10-05 06:19:02 UTC
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I understand the australian mentality, you have serious problem
advertising your heritage (as non convicts)

Now, a bunch of offsprings claim to be westernised and most civilized
though you are what, a third generation street thiefs, and rejects
sent out of europe for menacing europe.

Now, you appear in no mans land, and suddenly you declare you are
civilized, I doubt that minus your skin color, I pity you.

Feel sorry for the aboriginies for what you have done.

Now, don't come back and say like the dumb yankees from europe, if if
was not for them australia/usa would be a hunters ground. My ass !!
really !

In realty you stole somebody else's property and trying hard to
convince yourself that you did right ! I understand your problem
though !
Post by badmood
First move out of the block is to call him a racist. You may be too
sensitive to live in a western country. Consider moving to an all
muslim society.
Of course, if you have the experience then you know that the saudi's
are the most racist people on earth. They would look upon you as a
mongrel and treat you as a slave. You would be bringing them tea and
emptying their ashtrays.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
Post by Sunny
What part of are you too thick to understand ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
"But that did not happen. Our society was founded by British colonists. And
the single most decisive feature that determined the way it developed
was
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Post by Sunny
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
the Judeo-Christian-Western tradition. As a society, we are who we are,
because of that heritage".
I have said it before you clown, so read this slowly :-
If you want to live in Australia, as an Australian, good.
If not, then don't let the door hit your arse as you leave.
Sunny
2004-10-05 06:43:45 UTC
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Post by i***@yahoo.com
I understand the australian mentality, you have serious problem
advertising your heritage (as non convicts)
Know about Australia do you ?
Or are you speaking from dribble you picked up through Comcast net ?
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-05 08:49:52 UTC
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No he knows about the mentality of stupid people like yourself. Americans,
Australians and any other convict offspring is alike the world over. You
were the bad blood of Mother England and they did not want scumb in their
country so they exiled the thieves, murders and rejects in colonies.
Post by Sunny
Post by i***@yahoo.com
I understand the australian mentality, you have serious problem
advertising your heritage (as non convicts)
Know about Australia do you ?
Or are you speaking from dribble you picked up through Comcast net ?
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-05 08:47:59 UTC
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That's well said ... by the way these Aussies like to tell Indians how we
treat Muslims, etc... but do all they can to hide the truth about their
racist society. In short Muslims are the most hated people in Australia.
Post by i***@yahoo.com
I understand the australian mentality, you have serious problem
advertising your heritage (as non convicts)
Now, a bunch of offsprings claim to be westernised and most civilized
though you are what, a third generation street thiefs, and rejects
sent out of europe for menacing europe.
Now, you appear in no mans land, and suddenly you declare you are
civilized, I doubt that minus your skin color, I pity you.
Feel sorry for the aboriginies for what you have done.
Now, don't come back and say like the dumb yankees from europe, if if
was not for them australia/usa would be a hunters ground. My ass !!
really !
In realty you stole somebody else's property and trying hard to
convince yourself that you did right ! I understand your problem
though !
Post by badmood
First move out of the block is to call him a racist. You may be too
sensitive to live in a western country. Consider moving to an all
muslim society.
Of course, if you have the experience then you know that the saudi's
are the most racist people on earth. They would look upon you as a
mongrel and treat you as a slave. You would be bringing them tea and
emptying their ashtrays.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
Post by Sunny
What part of are you too thick to understand ?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
"But that did not happen. Our society was founded by British
colonists.
Post by i***@yahoo.com
Post by badmood
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Post by Sunny
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
And
the single most decisive feature that determined the way it developed
was
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Post by Sunny
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
the Judeo-Christian-Western tradition. As a society, we are who we are,
because of that heritage".
I have said it before you clown, so read this slowly :-
If you want to live in Australia, as an Australian, good.
If not, then don't let the door hit your arse as you leave.
The Department of Defense
2004-10-06 03:19:10 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
That's well said ... by the way these Aussies like to tell Indians how we
treat Muslims, etc... but do all they can to hide the truth about their
racist society.
Damn boy.... you seem to have a problem with everyone....
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-06 09:52:14 UTC
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So do you fuck witt!
Post by The Department of Defense
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
That's well said ... by the way these Aussies like to tell Indians how we
treat Muslims, etc... but do all they can to hide the truth about their
racist society.
Damn boy.... you seem to have a problem with everyone....
The Department of Defense
2004-10-06 14:22:25 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
So do you fuck witt!
Nope, only with islamists.
Hunter1
2004-10-09 04:03:21 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
That's well said ... by the way these Aussies like to tell Indians how we
treat Muslims, etc...
Not really, India has its' problems, we have ours, ours are
much more minor but we are much smaller. But when you get
Indian Hindu Nazis with trees shoved so far up their arses
they decide to crosspost into as many newsgroups as possible
about how "bad" everyone else is and how "great" they are
(and are laugably just putting a spotlight on the entrenched
bigotry of some Indian Hindus without even having the
intelligence to realise what they're doing), you deserve to
have the reality of your own society thrown back in your face.

Don't like it, fuck off and stop with the spammed
crossposting. Either that or be prepared to admit you have
the child prostitution capital of the world in Goa, and that
the attrocities in Gujarat and elsewhere pale anything
that's ever happened in Australia into insignificance in
comparison. Like I keep telling you, if you shit in a bucket
and take a month to clean it out, it really doesn't make
sense to criticise others for not flushing occasionally.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
but do all they can to hide the truth about their
racist society. In short Muslims are the most hated people in Australia.
What a load of shit. Bigotted no-dick shitbags like you are.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-22 13:37:57 UTC
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Hunter go and steal bread and other things that you got deported from
fucking Mother England for doing.
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
That's well said ... by the way these Aussies like to tell Indians how we
treat Muslims, etc...
Not really, India has its' problems, we have ours, ours are
much more minor but we are much smaller. But when you get
Indian Hindu Nazis with trees shoved so far up their arses
they decide to crosspost into as many newsgroups as possible
about how "bad" everyone else is and how "great" they are
(and are laugably just putting a spotlight on the entrenched
bigotry of some Indian Hindus without even having the
intelligence to realise what they're doing), you deserve to
have the reality of your own society thrown back in your face.
Don't like it, fuck off and stop with the spammed
crossposting. Either that or be prepared to admit you have
the child prostitution capital of the world in Goa, and that
the attrocities in Gujarat and elsewhere pale anything
that's ever happened in Australia into insignificance in
comparison. Like I keep telling you, if you shit in a bucket
and take a month to clean it out, it really doesn't make
sense to criticise others for not flushing occasionally.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
but do all they can to hide the truth about their
racist society. In short Muslims are the most hated people in Australia.
What a load of shit. Bigotted no-dick shitbags like you are.
Hunter1
2004-10-22 18:22:46 UTC
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And yet again you've proven the fact that you hindutva nazis
have no capability beyond abuse, no ability to reason and
argue, and are nothing except nazi bonehead bigots.
Otherwise you might have been able to at least address one
of my points. Thank you, the google archives love you more
and more by the day. (India might be cringing in shame, but
that's your problem!). Would you like a banana before you
climb back into your tree?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Hunter go and steal bread and other things that you got deported from
fucking Mother England for doing.
Post by Hunter1
Not really, India has its' problems, we have ours, ours are
much more minor but we are much smaller. But when you get
Indian Hindu Nazis with trees shoved so far up their arses
they decide to crosspost into as many newsgroups as possible
about how "bad" everyone else is and how "great" they are
(and are laugably just putting a spotlight on the entrenched
bigotry of some Indian Hindus without even having the
intelligence to realise what they're doing), you deserve to
have the reality of your own society thrown back in your face.
Don't like it, fuck off and stop with the spammed
crossposting. Either that or be prepared to admit you have
the child prostitution capital of the world in Goa, and that
the attrocities in Gujarat and elsewhere pale anything
that's ever happened in Australia into insignificance in
comparison. Like I keep telling you, if you shit in a bucket
and take a month to clean it out, it really doesn't make
sense to criticise others for not flushing occasionally.
Sunny
2004-10-23 01:01:02 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Hunter go and steal bread and other things that you got deported from
fucking Mother England for doing.
You have personal knowledge of this ?
LDL
2004-10-05 04:57:25 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
So once again when someone doesn't agree with your views, you go around
calling them the old rhetoric "Racist". Mind you if you keep that up, that
term will be then as much value as a fart in a spacesuit.

For the many years I have been on this forum, I have never known that Hunter
wants more or less Muslims into this country. He has expressed that they
should come in legally. Also that statement was to all immigrants despite
race, creed, colour, milk shake flavours etc.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-05 08:51:34 UTC
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Now I was firly talking to that cunt sunny. Indians have as much to say
about Muslims in India and Cunter gives us a lecture, now where is that cunt
?
Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racists pig! Now if your Australian friend Hunter1 would have said he
wants more Muslim pigs in Australia you would have backed him!
So once again when someone doesn't agree with your views, you go around
calling them the old rhetoric "Racist". Mind you if you keep that up, that
term will be then as much value as a fart in a spacesuit.
For the many years I have been on this forum, I have never known that Hunter
wants more or less Muslims into this country. He has expressed that they
should come in legally. Also that statement was to all immigrants despite
race, creed, colour, milk shake flavours etc.
LDL
2004-10-05 20:39:01 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Now I was firly talking to that cunt sunny. Indians have as much to say
about Muslims in India and Cunter gives us a lecture, now where is that cunt
?
Interesting choice of words I must say...
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-06 09:53:36 UTC
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When in Australia do as the Australian do so I have been told and all I am
doing is adapting to their "culture" ... beer, 4 xxx type of words, etc...
not forgetting dupping the natives!
Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Now I was firly talking to that cunt sunny. Indians have as much to say
about Muslims in India and Cunter gives us a lecture, now where is that cunt
?
Interesting choice of words I must say...
Hunter1
2004-10-09 02:45:50 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
When in Australia do as the Australian do so I have been told and all I am
doing is adapting to their "culture" ... beer, 4 xxx type of words, etc...
not forgetting dupping the natives!
Much better than the "culture" you brought with you, nazi
hatred of anything not Hindu, praising the murder of Muslims
and destruction of their religious sites, and dupping the
natives for a few thousand years longer.

If India knew the image you were going to portray to the
world I think they would have shot you in the head before
allowing you to embarass them elsewhere in the world.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-26 08:34:17 UTC
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Sure you Nazi bastard your kind have oppressed and killed the natives, did
all you could to carry on with the white Australia policy.

Australian pigs like Cunter = The very best of Australians ;-)! ... dumb,
stupid, racists, etc..
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
When in Australia do as the Australian do so I have been told and all I am
doing is adapting to their "culture" ... beer, 4 xxx type of words, etc...
not forgetting dupping the natives!
Much better than the "culture" you brought with you, nazi
hatred of anything not Hindu, praising the murder of Muslims
and destruction of their religious sites, and dupping the
natives for a few thousand years longer.
If India knew the image you were going to portray to the
world I think they would have shot you in the head before
allowing you to embarass them elsewhere in the world.
Hunter1
2004-10-27 12:45:45 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Sure you Nazi bastard your kind have oppressed and killed the natives,
Sure you Nazi bastard your kind still oppress and kill the
natives,
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
did
all you could to carry on with the white Australia policy.
Still do all you can to carry on with the murderous Indian
caste policy.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Australian pigs like Cunter
Australian cow-fuckers like Nelly
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
= The very best of Australians ;-)!
The shame of India! ;-) !
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
... dumb,
stupid, racists, etc..
Self admitted (by his comments above alone) dumb, stupid,
bigotted, racist. He did is own family in by karma alone.
But then perhaps they're better off not around to see what
scum he has become.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-31 03:19:20 UTC
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Fancy that so you go around "fucking" cows and that is why you write about
your experiences.

We also know that in Australia 1 in 3 children born are not fathered by the
person who is suppose to be the father. Looks like your mum has been bonking
around to produce a retard like you Cunter!
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Sure you Nazi bastard your kind have oppressed and killed the natives,
Sure you Nazi bastard your kind still oppress and kill the
natives,
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
did
all you could to carry on with the white Australia policy.
Still do all you can to carry on with the murderous Indian
caste policy.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Australian pigs like Cunter
Australian cow-fuckers like Nelly
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
= The very best of Australians ;-)!
The shame of India! ;-) !
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
... dumb,
stupid, racists, etc..
Self admitted (by his comments above alone) dumb, stupid,
bigotted, racist. He did is own family in by karma alone.
But then perhaps they're better off not around to see what
scum he has become.
Sunny
2004-10-31 03:28:33 UTC
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"Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri" <***@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:cm1kv8$ngs$***@news-02.connect.com.au...
<snip>
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
We also know that in Australia 1 in 3 children born are not fathered by the
person who is suppose to be the father.
<snip>
Bullshit
Hunter1
2004-10-31 09:53:42 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Fancy that so you go around "fucking" cows and that is why you write about
your experiences.
Yawn.... Do you? Perhaps that's why you're scared of a good
T-Bone steak? Thinking maybe it's something you reamed out
at some stage?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
We also know that in Australia 1 in 3 children born are not fathered by the
person who is suppose to be the father.
Not being a country dominated by an uncivilised primitive
bigotted caste system, our daughters are not "given" away,
they choose their own husbands and sexual partners, so there
is no such thing as a "supposed to be the father". We're
beyond such tribal tabboos. I thought much of India was too,
but perhaps I was wrong, and what you're telling us is that
such practices are still strongly in place there?
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Looks like your mum has been bonking
around to produce a retard like you Cunter!
Yawn.... What as opposed to inbreds like you??? Would you
like your banana now??
LDL
2004-10-09 21:49:39 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
When in Australia do as the Australian do so I have been told and all I am
doing is adapting to their "culture" ... beer, 4 xxx type of words, etc...
not forgetting dupping the natives!
Whao said that you have to swig beer???? Actually the consuption of beer is
actually lessening to other drinks so your response is rather futile.

Dupping the natives was something that my forefathers and amy others wern't
in to. You seem to forget that a prosperous number (like yourself) either
had immigrated parents or actually immigrated directly. So once again your
response is futile.

If you don't like how the general Australian population is doing things.
Pack up your things are go back to India. I am sure that you will be much
happier there.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Now I was firly talking to that cunt sunny. Indians have as much to say
about Muslims in India and Cunter gives us a lecture, now where is that cunt
?
Interesting choice of words I must say...
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-12 10:25:18 UTC
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Yeah I will adopt your tactics and in time over throw the new natives and
force my belief system on you. Better still that is what the Muslims are
doing and will be doing.
Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
When in Australia do as the Australian do so I have been told and all I am
doing is adapting to their "culture" ... beer, 4 xxx type of words, etc...
not forgetting dupping the natives!
Whao said that you have to swig beer???? Actually the consuption of beer is
actually lessening to other drinks so your response is rather futile.
Dupping the natives was something that my forefathers and amy others wern't
in to. You seem to forget that a prosperous number (like yourself) either
had immigrated parents or actually immigrated directly. So once again your
response is futile.
If you don't like how the general Australian population is doing things.
Pack up your things are go back to India. I am sure that you will be much
happier there.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Now I was firly talking to that cunt sunny. Indians have as much to say
about Muslims in India and Cunter gives us a lecture, now where is
that
Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
cunt
?
Interesting choice of words I must say...
Barry OGrady
2004-10-13 13:00:25 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Yeah I will adopt your tactics and in time over throw the new natives and
force my belief system on you. Better still that is what the Muslims are
doing and will be doing.
That is what Christians are doing all over the world.


-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-26 08:37:11 UTC
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Hunter1 is one of those Nazi's ...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:25:18 +1000, "Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri"
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Yeah I will adopt your tactics and in time over throw the new natives and
force my belief system on you. Better still that is what the Muslims are
doing and will be doing.
That is what Christians are doing all over the world.
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
Hunter1
2004-10-27 13:02:26 UTC
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Really??? Last week you were calling me a Muslim. Now I'm a
Christian??? You really should be more careful when telling
your lies, google is quite apt at showing what lying cunts
you Hindu nazi party members are. I'm sure you know that by
now, you've had your face rubbed in the mud enough times. 8]
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Hunter1 is one of those Nazi's ...
Post by Barry OGrady
That is what Christians are doing all over the world.
Hunter1
2004-10-14 15:31:40 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Yeah I will adopt your tactics and in time over throw the new natives and
force my belief system on you. Better still that is what the Muslims are
doing and will be doing.
You still haven't answered the question nelly, if you think
all European descent people should go back to Europe, why
don't you think all Indian descent people should go back to
India?

Not afraid to face your hypocrisy are you??? Says it all
really. Especially since most of us live in the countries we
swear by, yet you/jai/harm ALL refuse to live in India, and
live in the countries you pretend to hate... You're such a
transparent fool you know. 8]
LDL
2004-10-14 22:48:34 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Yeah I will adopt your tactics and in time over throw the new natives and
force my belief system on you. Better still that is what the Muslims are
doing and will be doing.
You still haven't answered the question nelly, if you think all European
descent people should go back to Europe, why don't you think all Indian
descent people should go back to India?
Not afraid to face your hypocrisy are you??? Says it all really.
Especially since most of us live in the countries we swear by, yet
you/jai/harm ALL refuse to live in India, and live in the countries you
pretend to hate... You're such a transparent fool you know. 8]
What is the population of Eastern Indians in England, United States,
Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong etc. Not to mention that there has been a
large amount of Indians immigrated to Australia taking many IT positions.
Hunter1
2004-10-14 23:29:16 UTC
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Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Yeah I will adopt your tactics and in time over throw the new natives and
force my belief system on you. Better still that is what the Muslims are
doing and will be doing.
You still haven't answered the question nelly, if you think all European
descent people should go back to Europe, why don't you think all Indian
descent people should go back to India?
Not afraid to face your hypocrisy are you??? Says it all really.
Especially since most of us live in the countries we swear by, yet
you/jai/harm ALL refuse to live in India, and live in the countries you
pretend to hate... You're such a transparent fool you know. 8]
What is the population of Eastern Indians in England, United States,
Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong etc. Not to mention that there has been a
large amount of Indians immigrated to Australia taking many IT positions.
I've got no probs with Indians moving around the world, most
of them are nice enough people (unlike arseholes like
nelly/harm/jai), but since these 3 nazi wankers keep calling
on whitey to go home, I want to see the three of them put
their money where their shitmouths are and go back to India
(the home country that all 3 hate so much they refuse to
live there despite the lies they spout about loving the place).

We know they wont, because they are hypocrites. I just love
watching the cowards avoid the issue and dig themselves
deeper into their own hypocritical graves and bury any
semblance of credibility they may have had even deeper into
the mud.
LDL
2004-10-15 04:16:52 UTC
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Post by LDL
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Yeah I will adopt your tactics and in time over throw the new natives and
force my belief system on you. Better still that is what the Muslims are
doing and will be doing.
You still haven't answered the question nelly, if you think all European
descent people should go back to Europe, why don't you think all Indian
descent people should go back to India?
Not afraid to face your hypocrisy are you??? Says it all really.
Especially since most of us live in the countries we swear by, yet
you/jai/harm ALL refuse to live in India, and live in the countries you
pretend to hate... You're such a transparent fool you know. 8]
What is the population of Eastern Indians in England, United States,
Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong etc. Not to mention that there has been a
large amount of Indians immigrated to Australia taking many IT positions.
I've got no probs with Indians moving around the world, most of them are
nice enough people (unlike arseholes like nelly/harm/jai), but since these
3 nazi wankers keep calling on whitey to go home, I want to see the three
of them put their money where their shitmouths are and go back to India
(the home country that all 3 hate so much they refuse to live there
despite the lies they spout about loving the place).
We know they wont, because they are hypocrites. I just love watching the
cowards avoid the issue and dig themselves deeper into their own
hypocritical graves and bury any semblance of credibility they may have
had even deeper into the mud.
I certainly love watching them squirm too :)

Kindest regards
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-21 13:39:58 UTC
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Squirming .. I have seen quite a few of you squirming these days especially
the one's that have lost their heads in Iraq!
Post by LDL
I certainly love watching them squirm too :)
Kindest regards
Hunter1
2004-10-21 13:59:07 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Squirming .. I have seen quite a few of you squirming these days especially
the one's that have lost their heads in Iraq!
At the hands of your brother terrorists! You would have
loved it! Hindutva nazis and Al Queda nazis are
brothers-in-arms, the methods and character and membership
of little-dicked losers are the same, only the religion is
different.
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-21 13:38:47 UTC
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The world does not belong to fucking whites so no matter if you have or have
not got a problem with Indians or anyone else moving around the world it
matter little. The only wanker and Nazi I know of is a white cunt like you
living in Asia. Now fuck off back to Europe!
Post by Hunter1
I've got no probs with Indians moving around the world, most
of them are nice enough people (unlike arseholes like
nelly/harm/jai), but since these 3 nazi wankers keep calling
on whitey to go home, I want to see the three of them put
their money where their shitmouths are and go back to India
(the home country that all 3 hate so much they refuse to
live there despite the lies they spout about loving the place).
We know they wont, because they are hypocrites. I just love
watching the cowards avoid the issue and dig themselves
deeper into their own hypocritical graves and bury any
semblance of credibility they may have had even deeper into
the mud.
Hunter1
2004-10-21 14:02:58 UTC
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Nelly, nelly, nelly... Why do you keep avoiding the issue???
If you want people of European descent to fuck off back to
Europe, then obviously, unless you're an idiot and a
hypocrite, would want people of Indian descent to fuck off
back to India would you not???

JUST ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION?????

(We know you wont, you're too afraid of looking like a fool
(pssst, you do anyway) and making a hypocite of yourself
(pssst, that is readily apparent anyway), but it's funny
watching you turn tail and run from that question every time
it's asked, it just makes you Hindutva nazis look all the
more stupid! 8] )
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
The world does not belong to fucking whites so no matter if you have or have
not got a problem with Indians or anyone else moving around the world it
matter little. The only wanker and Nazi I know of is a white cunt like you
living in Asia. Now fuck off back to Europe!
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-26 08:39:57 UTC
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I am an Asian and more then welcomed here by the natives unlike European
cunts like you.
Post by Hunter1
Nelly, nelly, nelly... Why do you keep avoiding the issue???
If you want people of European descent to fuck off back to
Europe, then obviously, unless you're an idiot and a
hypocrite, would want people of Indian descent to fuck off
back to India would you not???
JUST ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION?????
(We know you wont, you're too afraid of looking like a fool
(pssst, you do anyway) and making a hypocite of yourself
(pssst, that is readily apparent anyway), but it's funny
watching you turn tail and run from that question every time
it's asked, it just makes you Hindutva nazis look all the
more stupid! 8] )
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
The world does not belong to fucking whites so no matter if you have or have
not got a problem with Indians or anyone else moving around the world it
matter little. The only wanker and Nazi I know of is a white cunt like you
living in Asia. Now fuck off back to Europe!
Hunter1
2004-10-27 13:05:45 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
I am an Asian
So not an Australian then by your definition which involved
continents, and Australia is a seperate continent. You love
fucking yourself over don't you. 8]
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
and more then welcomed here by the natives
Anyone born here is a native I'm afraid, we're not all
racist like you Hindu nazi party reps. I wasn't born here
incidentally, I was born in Singapore, spose that makes me
an Asian huh??? And born much closer to Australia than you
were. But just keep digging that grave for yourself you
moron, it's funny to watch! 8]
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
unlike European
cunts like you.
Never been to Europe, have you??? Spose that makes you more
European than me! Unless of course you're going to admit
(yet again) to being a racist cunt? Tell us the story nelly!
You painting yourself into a corner seems to be rapidly
becoming the comedy relief in these newsgroups! 8]
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-31 03:23:28 UTC
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In fact the Aboriginal people I know see Australia as being part of Asia. In
fact what they have said is that the creation of an Australian "continent"
was a means of seperating Australia on racial lines and this creation of an
Australian continent was in fact part of the "whiting" of Australia.

So whites Cunts like are doing what comes naturally to you and that is
segregation, lies, racism, Nazism and bullshit. No one has to believe what
you have said or agree with it. As an Asian I am in my own home and a cunt
like you isn't. In fact Australia has a Black history as the Aboriginal have
been saying and all we get is white cunts like you trying to white wash it.
You racist cunt.
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
I am an Asian
So not an Australian then by your definition which involved
continents, and Australia is a seperate continent. You love
fucking yourself over don't you. 8]
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
and more then welcomed here by the natives
Anyone born here is a native I'm afraid, we're not all
racist like you Hindu nazi party reps. I wasn't born here
incidentally, I was born in Singapore, spose that makes me
an Asian huh??? And born much closer to Australia than you
were. But just keep digging that grave for yourself you
moron, it's funny to watch! 8]
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
unlike European
cunts like you.
Never been to Europe, have you??? Spose that makes you more
European than me! Unless of course you're going to admit
(yet again) to being a racist cunt? Tell us the story nelly!
You painting yourself into a corner seems to be rapidly
becoming the comedy relief in these newsgroups! 8]
Sunny
2004-10-31 03:31:24 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
In fact the Aboriginal people I know see Australia as being part of Asia. In
fact what they have said is that the creation of an Australian "continent"
was a means of seperating Australia on racial lines and this creation of an
Australian continent was in fact part of the "whiting" of Australia.
<snip>

More racist bullshit.
Hunter1
2004-10-31 10:08:24 UTC
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Post by Sunny
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
In fact the Aboriginal people I know see Australia as being part of Asia. In
fact what they have said is that the creation of an Australian "continent"
was a means of seperating Australia on racial lines and this creation of an
Australian continent was in fact part of the "whiting" of Australia.
<snip>
More racist bullshit.
It'a about all nelly and his fellow hindu nazis are capable of.

Hunter1
2004-10-31 10:07:47 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
In fact the Aboriginal people I know see Australia as being part of Asia.
The Dravidians don't know anything about Australia though,
they're the only Aboriginals you know.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
In
fact what they have said is that the creation of an Australian "continent"
was a means of seperating Australia on racial lines and this creation of an
Australian continent was in fact part of the "whiting" of Australia.
Yeah, just like every Dravidian I know says you are
personally responsible for raping their children and their
cattle, and that you drink baby's blood, but on the other
side of the fence we have reality. How about you try
sticking to that side of the fence huh? 8]
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
So whites Cunts
Careful, your bigotry slip is showing again, but then you've
never denied being a racist, bigiotted cunt have you. In
fact you seem to be proud of it.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
like are doing what comes naturally to you and that is
segregation, lies, racism, Nazism and bullshit.
Sorry, that'd be India, and in comparison to Australia your
track record more than proves it.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
No one has to believe what
you have said or agree with it.
Nor with you, nor do any except a handful of hindutva nazis
agree with you.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
As an Asian I am in my own home and a cunt
like you isn't.
No you are not, and yes I am. You're more bloody European
than I am, your home country is much closer, both by birth
AND by citizenship. Fucking European invader! 8]
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
In fact Australia has a Black history as the Aboriginal have
been saying and all we get is white cunts like you trying to white wash it.
Who's trying to white wash our history? It aint black, it
aint white, it's just history. Like anywhere else except in
the small minds of bigots like yourself.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
You racist cunt.
And I'm sure that's what they were saying just before they
taught your family a lesson in manners hmmmm?
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-21 13:36:21 UTC
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Not really I live in my region it is called Asia and Europeans should fuck
off back to where they belong!
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Yeah I will adopt your tactics and in time over throw the new natives and
force my belief system on you. Better still that is what the Muslims are
doing and will be doing.
You still haven't answered the question nelly, if you think
all European descent people should go back to Europe, why
don't you think all Indian descent people should go back to
India?
Not afraid to face your hypocrisy are you??? Says it all
really. Especially since most of us live in the countries we
swear by, yet you/jai/harm ALL refuse to live in India, and
live in the countries you pretend to hate... You're such a
transparent fool you know. 8]
Hunter1
2004-10-21 14:12:08 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Not really I live in my region it is called Asia and Europeans should fuck
off back to where they belong!
Actually India is much closer to Europe than Australia, so
perhaps you should be in Europe??? 8]

But apart from that I've got to love your backpeddle, you're
effectively saying you claim all the world as long as it's
somewhere you want to live. So as we thought, you're a
hypocrite and wont admit it. But lets play by your rules,
just for a second, and put you back on the spot. 8]

If all Europeans living outside of Europe in your mind are
cunts that should fuck off back to Europe as you call for,
then would that not also mean that all Indians living inside
of Europes in your mind are cunts that should fuck off out
of Europe???? And if so are you happy to proclaim to all
your Indian audience currently living in Europe (isn't your
boyfriend harm over there by the way?) that you consider
them to be cunts for living there and that they should fuck
off out of Europe??? Or are you going to admit you're a
hypocrite and a fucking bigot??? Or are you going to avoid
the question and admit you're a hypocrite and a fucking
bigot by what would be a damning retreat from the question??? 8]

Oh dear, looks like nelly's little attempt to worm his way
out of his bigotted hypocrisy has backfired on him. Balls
back in your court nelly, don't be a coward now, answer the
fucking question. 8]
Adi Anant
2004-10-21 21:30:24 UTC
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Post by Hunter1
If all Europeans living outside of Europe in your mind are
cunts that should fuck off back to Europe as you call for,
then would that not also mean that all Indians living inside
of Europes in your mind are cunts that should fuck off out
of Europe????
Indians work to enrich the natives. You people invade to decimate the
natives and take over. But you are too dumb to see the differences.
Post by Hunter1
Oh dear, looks like nelly's little attempt to worm his way
out of his bigotted hypocrisy has backfired on him. Balls
back in your court nelly, don't be a coward now, answer the
fucking question. 8]
Your idiocy has backfired on you. And you are yet to realize it,
pathetic maggot.


Adi Anant
Hunter1
2004-10-21 22:56:01 UTC
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Post by Adi Anant
Indians work to enrich the natives. You people invade to decimate the
natives and take over. But you are too dumb to see the differences.
Most people from any country that emigrate from one country
to another work to enrich that country. Some wankers (like
nelly) just go to spread hate. You're to much of a bigot to
see reality. Generally caused by lack of a penis.
Post by Adi Anant
Your idiocy has backfired on you. And you are yet to realize it,
pathetic maggot.
Afraid to answer the question are we??? Thought so nazi.
You're as pathetic and as much of a coward as nelly, how sad. 8]
Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
2004-10-26 08:38:26 UTC
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In fact India is 5 hours from Perth you idiot, we are closer to Australia
the Europe. Of course a Cunt like you would know that. Go back to where you
belong!
Post by Hunter1
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Not really I live in my region it is called Asia and Europeans should fuck
off back to where they belong!
Actually India is much closer to Europe than Australia, so
perhaps you should be in Europe??? 8]
But apart from that I've got to love your backpeddle, you're
effectively saying you claim all the world as long as it's
somewhere you want to live. So as we thought, you're a
hypocrite and wont admit it. But lets play by your rules,
just for a second, and put you back on the spot. 8]
If all Europeans living outside of Europe in your mind are
cunts that should fuck off back to Europe as you call for,
then would that not also mean that all Indians living inside
of Europes in your mind are cunts that should fuck off out
of Europe???? And if so are you happy to proclaim to all
your Indian audience currently living in Europe (isn't your
boyfriend harm over there by the way?) that you consider
them to be cunts for living there and that they should fuck
off out of Europe??? Or are you going to admit you're a
hypocrite and a fucking bigot??? Or are you going to avoid
the question and admit you're a hypocrite and a fucking
bigot by what would be a damning retreat from the question??? 8]
Oh dear, looks like nelly's little attempt to worm his way
out of his bigotted hypocrisy has backfired on him. Balls
back in your court nelly, don't be a coward now, answer the
fucking question. 8]
Hunter1
2004-10-27 13:19:08 UTC
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You think that the physical distance (border to border) is
greater to Europe from India than it is to Australia from
India???? 8]

You really need to re-do Geography 101 my son, you're
failing dismally.! 8]

(Psssst, Britain aint Europe! 8] )

But just keep on digging that grave for your nazi
credibility, it's all a good laff! 8]

Now how about you go back to where you belong you fucking
peice of shit, which is jail.
Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
In fact India is 5 hours from Perth you idiot, we are closer to Australia
the Europe. Of course a Cunt like you would know that. Go back to where you
belong!
XpatriotgamesX
2004-10-21 14:32:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: nelly afraid to face his hypocrisy
Date: 10/21/2004 6:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Not really I live in my region it is called Asia and Europeans should fuck
off back to where they belong!
Be nice. The Europeans are your daddies.
Hunter1
2004-10-09 04:07:32 UTC
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Post by Neil_Hindu_Sikh_Kashmiri
Now I was firly talking to that cunt sunny. Indians have as much to say
about Muslims in India and Cunter gives us a lecture, now where is that cunt
?
No, I just reply to your bigotted attacks on anything that
is non-Indian Hindu (ein reich, ein religion, ein India
seems to be your moto). Don't like the heat in your own
smelly backyard, then stop bringing it to our attention with
your racist, bigotted attacks that you spam across as many
newsgroups as are unwilling to listen to your prattle.

Fucking moron. No wonder you had the problems you had as a
child, if your family was half as bigotted as you I think
they deserved whatever happened to them. It's the bigotted
scum of this world like yourself that CAUSE this, it's
called Karma when it comes back on you.
JoeBlair
2004-10-13 05:53:56 UTC
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<snip the BS>

....(another psycho terrorist the government hasn't got rid of)...It
seems every fucking time there is dumbshit terrorist who likes to spam
and it makes me sick.
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